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Meeting
October 31 - November 2, 2006
University of Georgia
Day
One – Tuesday, October 31, 2006
Welcome
& Introductions
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Introductions: Gary Achtemeier welcomed the group; Doug
Fox was introduced as the facilitator for the FCAMMS discussions.
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Attendees: FCAMMS – Gary Achtemeier, Doug Fox, Scott
Goodrick, Tim Brown, Brian Potter, Shawn Urbanski, Francis
Fujioka, Warren Heilman, Al Reibeau, Ed Nikolov, and Yong
Liu. FENWT – Paul Schlobohm, Tom Wordell, Wayne
Cook, Joe Kennedy, Pete Lahm, Larry Bradshaw, Wayne Mitchell,
Dennis Dupuis, Eli Jacks, Mike Hilbrunner, Pat Andrews,
Dave Andres, Shari Shetler and Lani Williams.
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Logistics information shared
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Agenda discussed and expectations established
Fire
Consortia and the Advanced Modeling of Meteorology and Smoke
(FCAMMS)
The day was under direction of FCAMMS including presentations
and discussions.
Fire
Environment Working Team (FENWT) Overview, Paul Schlobohm
Paul shared FENWT organization and current projects, as
well as posing questions to FCAMMS. FENWT has been tasked
by NWCG to recommend the future direction of the RAWS network
and fire weather access/display systems such as ROMAN. In
response to this FENWT posed several questions to the FCAMMS.
FCAMMS
Overview, Doug Fox
FCAMMS are a research activity of the National Fire Plan;
with common and coordinated research objectives to build
research capacity and improve cooperation with Universities
and others. They also share a common and coordinated research
strategy to conduct real-time, high resolution meteorological
simulations as the basis for developing new fire and smoke
application tools and the delivery of meteorological simulations
to the user community to obtain feedback, evaluate and enhance
product development efforts.
The FCAMMS are organized regionally/geographically and each
interacts with the local Geographic Area Coordination Centers
within their Consortia. As such each specializes in aspects
of fire and air quality research and development.
FCAMMS has identified potential areas of FENWT/FCAMMS Cooperation:
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FCAMMS relevance to fire activities;
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Developing common products and displays.
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FCAMMS and fire training:
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Coordination Issues:
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With other research products (Forest Service and other
agencies);
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With operational fire weather and smoke activities:
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Predictive Services
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NOAA/NWS
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State
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Other Issues
FCAMMS Contributions to Increased Firefighter and
Public Safety, Warren Heilman
Small-scale fire-fuel-atmospheric interaction, research,
fire behavior:
Components of Core Fire Science Research Agenda:
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Fire Transitions*
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Combustion and Heat Transfer
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Fire Emissions*
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Complex Fuels
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Fire Event dynamics*
*where FCAMMS can contribute
FCAMMS involved in:
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Modeling – The FCAMMS and partners are utilizing
a variety of different research models to investigate
small-scale fire-atmospheric interactions.
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Observations – The FCAMMS are participating in field
experiments to measure small-scale fire-atmosphere interactions
and validate models.
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Program Delivery – The FCAMMS are delivering on-line
weather information that can be used as input to current
fire behavior prediction systems.
FCAMMS
contributions to improve Tactical Planning Research and
Support, Brian Potter
FCAMMS research and applications designed to assist fire
and smoke managers with tactical (less than three days and
1-100 km scales) decisions and planning.
FCAMMS
Research and Development related to Predictive Services,
Francis Fujioka
Topics of Interest
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Long-range Forecasts
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Probability of Fire Potential
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Gridded NFDRS
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Utilization of GIS
Discussion:
There is no good connection between FCAMMS and Predictive
Services. There is a connection regionally/locally. Additionally,
FCAMMS are looking for a process to be able to take their
products forward operationally.
FCAMMS – Air Quality Research and Applications,
Gary Achtemeier
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Each FCAMMS has a regional flavor
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Each FCAMMS research and applications oriented to needs
of users
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Each FCAMMS has a national flavor
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Each FCAMMS shares common models (MM5, BlueSky ) and produce
common products (fire weather and fire meteorology)
FCAMMS
– Planned output of common products and displays,
Brian Potter
Common products are a slow work in progress. Currently they
are developing a common portal map for ventilation index.
Other projects include FCAMMS/BlueSky RAINS interface.
FCAMMS are looking for principles and guidance perhaps from
FENWT. FENWT may be able to provide guidance and leadership
in product development.
Using FCAMMS products (science application training
opportunity/needs – Pete Lahm
Different users have different skill level and knowledge
base. The challenge is to train and educate the use and
availability of the products, and to assess the avenues
to address this. Opportunities for Continuing Education
need to be explored, particularly the use of COMET as a
training tool. The National Weather Service has adopted
the use of COMET, which has potential for use here and with
other Predictive Services products.
Closing Issues/Remarks, Doug Fox
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RAWS-can FCAMMS model based NFDRS results inform network
questions.
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Lack of national consistency and outputs cause problems
for users.
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Who are the users? Who can represent them? What is the
process?
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Relationship with Predictive Services/GACCs
National
Regional
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NWS Science Office Interactions
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AMR Spectrum for fire and smoke considerations
RAWS
FCAMMS can help in addressing the efficiency of RAWS.
- Action:
FENWT will frame the question concerning RAWS efficiency,
tools and capabilities. FCAMMS will develop a White Paper
to address the question.
Data
Standards – Lack of Consistency
There is a lack of data standards and consistency among
the FCAMMS products. It was suggested that the FCAMMS look
at the NWCG standards, FENWT can assist.
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Action: Provide access to NWCG Data Standards
to FCAMMS
Communication
FENWT views FCAMMS as a strategic partner.
- Action:
NPSG will invite local FCAMMS to their meetings. Al Riebau
will be the FCAMMS contact and Pete Lahm will be the FENWT
contact.
Long
Term vision for FCAMMS
FCAMMS fits under two strategic areas: Fire Strategic Program
Area and Water and Air Strategic Program Area. FCAMMS stability
under Fire Plan is like any other program. FCAMMS is one
of the first areas of high performance computing within
the Forest Service. Further discussion is needed concerning
the organization and national potential of FCAMMS. Other
challenges that face FCAMMS is the ability to work more
effectively with the NWS and other entities including research
and universities.
AMR
(Appropriate Management Response)
The criteria for AMR Fires have not yet been determined.
The group needs to be aware of the potential for decision
making tools/products that may be necessary; keeping in
mind that decisions may not affect just one FCAMMS.
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Day 2 – Wednesday, November 1, 2006
User
Needs Assessment Survey OFCM/JAG, Paul Schlobohm and Dave
Andrus
The current copy of the survey and cover letters is posted
at: www.ofcm.gov/ofcm.
Western Governors urged NOAA to complete a National Needs
Assessment Report, by NOAA’s Office of the Federal
Coordinator for Meteorology, of federal, state and local
fire managers need for weather information in their wildfire
and prescribed fire decision making processes and a framework
to meet those needs by the National Weather Service and
Predictive Services.
JAG Established Goals
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Comprehensive assessment of weather and climate needs
of providers and users in their wildland fire and fuels
management activities.
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Assessment of provider agency capability to deliver weather
and climate information to fire managers and other users.
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Raise the critical nature of fire weather to a new level
of community awareness.
The survey will be distributed at the 3rd International
Fire Ecology and Management Congress as well as through
the email list that has been provided. In addition, it is
encouraged that the survey be forwarded out. Surveys are
due by November 30th.
Timeline:
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November 8th – Survey will be emailed out
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November 14th – Surveys will be distributed at the
3rd International Fire Ecology and Management Congress
and addressed at the Panel Discussion
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November 30th – Survey closes
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December 1st – Analysis begins
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December 7th-8th – JAG meeting on Assessment plans
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January – JAG Draft Assessment Report
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February 1st – Draft Assessment due to the editor
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March-April – Assessment revised for printing
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April 18th – JAG Meeting Update
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June 10th-12th – Results to Western Governor’s
Discussion:
Assistance will be needed in compiling and analyzing the
survey. The surveys will be scanned and information will
need to be entered into a spreadsheet format. It was suggested
to consider compressing the later portion of the schedule
to spend more time compiling and analyzing the results.
It was also suggested that the respondents be asked to categorize
themselves into a limited number of defined user groups,
rather than leaving the option open ended and categorized
by the reviewers. Inputs for the report will not be limited
to the survey but may also come from the panel discussion
as well as other organizations or groups providing issues
and challenges.
- Action:
FENWT will provide Dave with recommendations. By end of
today, Tom and Wayne will frame recommendation to Dave.
To be reviewed by the group.
- Action:
Prepare specific comments for discussion after lunch.
Also, commit to assisting with the compilation of survey
results.
FCAMMS,
Paul Schlobohm
Reflection on yesterday:
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Time spent was a valuable experience.
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One issue that remains is a process for products to be
sanctioned at the national level.
Decision:
Consider FCAMMS a Strategic Partner, Pete will be the liaison.
- Action:
Wayne M and Paul will draft a response to FCAMMS requesting
which products they feel are ready for operational use
and what will happen at boundary domain. Possible opportunity
for Predictive Services or the Weather Service to take
an operational role. This will be shared at the November
Conference Call.
Decision
Support, Pat Andrews
A Temporal and Spatial Framework for Development and Application
of Wildland Fire Decision Support Systems
Pat has developed a Framework as a means of organizing information
on wildland fire management activities and the information
and decision support systems that support the actions. This
is a working tool that addresses fire management decision-making,
not fire physical processes.
Use
of the framework
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Identify fire management actions and decisions
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State the kind of information that is needed or desired
to support a decision
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Assess the data that are available
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Determine the source of the needed information
FENWT
Strategic Plan
Create a technology assessment matrix based on current and
emerging systems and technologies for fuel description,
weather observation and modeling and topographic data.
Table set to edit with DreamWeaver (html program)
Definitions included in table – open window links
Pat has made the first attempt which needs to be evaluated.
Pat
will be presenting a paper at a March Conference examining
fire behavior and fire danger systems in context of this
framework.
- Action:
FENWT will work with Pat to develop the matrix. Pat will
continue to work on display options, and will hand off
when appropriate.
2nd Fire Behavior and Fuels Conference, Wayne Cook
Wayne provided an update for the conference scheduled for
March 26-30, 2007 in Destin, Florida. The Conference is
focusing on Fire Environment and FENWT is considered as
a Host/Sponsor. There is still a need for people to step
forward and commit to assisting the Conference including:
Posters Coordinator – logistical aspect, tie into
select, set-up
Panels – three skills
- Organize
special session, a panel to address topic that needs addressed,
moderate
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Moderators for other topics
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Volunteers – Door, miscellaneous tasks
Keynote Speakers
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Fire Danger Committee - Larry
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An email has been sent out to his Committee. He is
planning to host a Fire Danger Session/Track if there
is enough interested. His Committee is also providing
a poster and he is working on the FENWT poster. There
are members of the Committee attending that are available
as Volunteers
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Smoke – Pete
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Pete is organizing a Track including smoke management
issues. He has three volunteers to moderate and review
papers. He is working to bring in state regulatory
individuals.
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Fuels Group – Dennis
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The Fuels Group is requesting a half day special session
by invitation, a task oriented side meeting. The Group
would like to present the Interagency Prescribed Fire
Planning and Implementation Procedures Reference Guide
at the General Session. Dennis will work with Wayne
to schedule; Dave Mueller will submit the paper. There
is limited funding available and Dennis will investigate
next week.
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States –
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Wayne – He will continue to support through
contact list and encourage individuals to attend.
There is another Conference in Reno during March that
will conflict with some of the target audience. Wayne
is on that Conference Committee.
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Joe – He is trying to obtain money through Compacts;
he is requesting poster submissions as well. He has
also asked the Compacts to provide funding for travel,
that decision will be made in January
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Research – Mike
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He will be attending and will talk with Wayne concerning
funding. Mike will provide Wayne with speaker possibilities.
- National
Weather Service – Eli
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Larry VanBussum will be attending. Larry and Eli will
coordinate NWS involvement, including discussion topics
possibilities of NDFD and Spot Weather Forecasts.
- National
Predictive Services Group – Tom
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There may not be enough for a session, the Group will
discuss at the November Predictive Services Meeting.
Possible topics include: product marketing, 7-Day
Product, Forecast NFDRS, National Seasonal Assessment
Workshop, and North American Assessment. NPSG has
contributed $5000.
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FENWT – Paul
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Paul is available to fill in where needed. He will
assist on the poster development. FENWT may be able
to use this opportunity to validate the results of
the survey and gather additional information; particularly
concerning RAWS. The Group may also hold a special
meeting.
Decision:
Wayne will contact Roberta D’Amico, Karen
Gleason, Randy Eardley, Rose Davis (NIFC External Affairs)
regarding their availability to be the Poster Committee.
Strategic
Plan, Shari Shetler
The Group worked with Shari to update and finalize the Action
Plans. The Tasks were reviewed and revised to support the
Goals. The Table was amended to include a start date and
appropriate leads were defined. A column for person days
was also added to comply with NWCG requests. NWCG has completed
all of their Action Plans and will be looking for the Working
Teams to complete theirs. These Action Plans will be utilized
in future budget processes.
- Action:
Shari will work on writing the Strategic Plan into the
established template
OFCM/JAG Survey Recommendations
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Letter:
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The addition of smoke management in the second paragraph
under Background
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Include NWCG and FENWT as entities for potential utilization
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The first paragraph should stress the critical needs
of the survey
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Survey:
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A matrix was proposed to identify respondent’s
positions with respect to fire.
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Bring table back up to front. Paul will look at question
ordering.
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List as portable weather monitoring systems, example
Portable RAWS.
Paul,
Larry, Eli and Heath will assist in compiling the survey
results. Paul, Pete, Wayne C. and Eli all plan on attending
the conference.
Decision:
Members will and a personally written email to forward to
constituents.
- Action:
Provide specific suggestions to Dave. Dave will update
postings on the web. The Survey will go to the printers
on Monday.
Day Three – Thursday, November 2, 2006
User
Needs Assessment Strategy, Paul Schlobohm
The expectation is that FENWT will not receive all the information
they need to make a recommendation on RAWS and ROMAN from
the User Needs Assessments (OFCM/JAG, NPSG and NWS). Higher
resolution information may be needed and these needs need
to be addressed now. It may be necessary/desirable to bring
other stakeholders to our meetings to discuss their needs
and possibilities. To accommodate this it may be desirable
to hold meetings where these stakeholders reside. Each member
should be holding discussion amongst their group as well.
Meeting
Schedule, Paul Schlobohm
March 6-8, 2007 – Boise, Idaho
June 12-14, 2007 – Norman, Oklahoma, National Weather
Center
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Action: Paul will engage Roudabaugh regarding
feedback from the Western Governors Association Meeting.
Budget, Paul Schlobohm
Paul received the budget from NWCG with less detail than
was submitted. Almost every Working Team received a lot
less then they requested. The Group reviewed the budget
and recommended funding revisions based on current needs.
- Action:
Paul will post detailed spreadsheet to website.
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Action: Finalize budget on the November Conference
Call.
Training,
Wayne Cook
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Tactics – Update the status of Fire Behavior Curriculum
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Response to Training Working Team Memo
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Strategy – Determine FENWT’s position and
role on Training (include Continuing Education)
Their have been repeated efforts by the Fire Behavior Committee
to update the review process for the Fire Behavior Curriculum.
The Committee has tried to work through the Training Committee
and recently received a response that failed to address
the issues. The Fire Behavior Committee Charter states that
they have a role in Fire Behavior Curriculum. The Committee
would like the lower level courses to have the same review
process as S-491, 492, 493. The issue of who is managing
the curriculum also extends to Fire Danger and Fuels.
Decision:
It is important that the Committees maintain a
role in curriculum; providing examples of new opportunities
in training and continuing education. The relationship of
the Training Working Team and other Working Team interactions
needs to be examined.
- Action:
Paul and Larry will work on response to NWCG.
Wayne
announced that he has resigned from Fire Behavior Committee
and also as a member of FENWT.
Strategic
Plan (continued)
Paul is working on the FENWT Website including the top three
to five priority items.
- Action:
Paul will work on the Strategic Plan narrative, reshaping
existing documents; he will contact members as necessary
for details.
5th Action Plan
- Action:
Paul will work with Shari on the completing Action
Plan.
6th
Action Plan – deals with development and delivery
of training.
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Action: Wayne will have committee review and
report back to by FENWT Conference Call.
Assessment of NIFMID Data Quality, Larry Bradshaw
This report was generated by the NPSG White Paper to FENWT
addressing the RAWS Coordinator role at the Geographic Areas.
The study found significant improvement in the second five
years across all agencies and geographic areas; data quality
was defined by two five year periods.
- Action:
Pete will draft a response to NWCG. He may need interpretation
from Larry and assistance from Tom. The response will
be completed by November 28th for the FENWT Conference
Call.
Committee
Reports
Fire Danger Committee, Larry Bradshaw
WIMS Task Order
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January/February – background work will be done
in WIMS
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Release date to the field is unknown
The programs will be run side by side for a year with
no visible changes to the user. Communication to the field
regarding the project has not been satisfactory to date.
The Task Group is working on better ways to communicate
including a question and answer webpage linked to FAMWEB
and a banner on logon and including the Help Desk.
FireFamily
Plus
Larry will be presenting a paper at the 2nd Fire Behavior
and Fuels Conference, which will discuss the model in
the new FireFamily Plus
CIPTS,
Pete Lahm
There is a new standard for PM 2.5 and the impacts on human
health which is becoming a continuing issue with smoke.
May be even lower in the not so distant future.
There is discussion regarding the formation of interagency
cadre, state by state to cover the regulatory information.
The strategy is in the fledgling stages and may be involved
with the Fuels Committee. California already has a cadre
in place. FENWT may be a contributor.
Fire
Behavior Committee, Wayne Cook
The committee is proud of their work and accomplishments
and is very active/engaged/committed to influencing the
content of the Incident Response Pocket Guide (IRPG).
FENWT,
Paul Schlobohm
Accomplishment Report can be found on MyFireCommunity.
- Action:
Paul will task committees on the reporting process.
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