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Attending:
| Name |
| Bob Leaverton, Chair |
| Vince Mazzier, BLM, Co-Chair |
| Ralph Alworth, FIRESCOPE (4/24-25 only) |
| Andy Bellcourt, BIA |
| Paul Broyles, NPS |
| Mike Dougherty, USFA/Homeland Security Liaison |
| Mike Dudley, USFS |
| Jim Hollinsworth, FIRESCOPE |
| Jim Karels, Southern States |
| Jim Kelton, USFWS |
| Brian Shiplett, Western States |
| Beth Spencer, Executive Secretary |
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| Absent: |
| Charlie Keller, Northeast States |
| Kristy Plourde, USCG |
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| Guests: |
| Joe Reinarz, 4/24-26, Type 2 IC |
| Mike Lohrey, 4/24, AC/IC Group |
| Brad Gibbs, 4/24, Interagency Helicopter Operations
Committee (IHOps) |
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Membership
Changes:
Jim Hollingsworth
replaces Ralph Alworth as the FIRESCOPE representative. Roster has been
updated.
FOLLOW
UP: All IOS WT member need to update their email groups with
Jim’s contact information.
Incident
Management Team Typing (Guests: Joe Reinarz, Northern AZ Type 2 team
IC, Mike Lohrey, Chair AC/IC Group:
The IOS WT was tasked by NWCG to evaluate the possibility of eliminating
Incident Management Team typing with a response to them by October.
The National IC/AC Group developed an issue paper recommending the current
typing be retained. Issues are: complexity level and what definition
is used, and capacity/funding to staff teams. Team membership is volunteer,
not required. The definition between type 1 and 2 incidents is blurred
and cost containment is playing a factor. How to determine complexity
on all risk and all hazard incidents is an issue.
Recommendations
are to keep the current system of Type 1 and 2 teams, define the differences/complexity
structure, focus on increasing the capacity IMT’s, and develop a process
for deploying lower complexity teams on high complexity incidents.
Draft document to
NWCG needs to restate the tasking to the IOS WT, define the issues of
complexity and capacity, describe the alternatives considered, and recommend
staying with the current system.
FOLLOW
UP: Bob will write first draft and distribute to IOS WT for
review.
S420
Issue:
S420 is seen in
some GACC’s as blocking people from getting through the qualifications
system. GACC’s are having difficulties staffing full teams to go through
the course exercise, especially in the Plans and Finance functions.
Time is needed for experience. The Pacific Northwest GA has been allowing
S420 to be delivered by cadre at an incident and students participate
in their functional role on the incident rather than a simulation. The
S420 course needs to be revised and be tied in with the S520 course
to ensure a relationship between the two courses. The NWCG Training
Development Unit maintains the course under the responsibility of the
TWT. An interim proposal to allow L-380 or L-381 as an alternate course
for S420 was denied by the IOS WT. Once the PTB competency revisions
are completed, the TWT will compare current courses to ensure competencies
are addressed at the appropriate level. Courses will then be revised
as needed.
Core
Competencies/PTB’s Reviews (Mazzier/Bellcourt):
Deb Epps is requesting
IOS WT input on various issues which have come up during the Core Competencies/PTB
revision process:
- FFT2 PTB: Recommendation
to eliminate the PTB and change it to a job aid for use during the
course. IOS WT approves.
- FIRB PTB: Recommendation
to eliminate and combine the tasks into other PTB’s. RXI1 and RXI2
were combined into FIRB at the request of the FUWT. IOS WT denied,
but will meet with the FUWT to reevaluate.
- FUM1/2: Recommendation
to combine into one PTB as only three tasks are different. It is also
the only type 1/2 PTB that only the new tasks need to be completed,
not the entire PTB. IOS WT wants it left as is.
- Field Review
Timeframe/Process: One field review in the fall is planned through
agency input. The plan is to add in codes during and prior to September
meeting, put out for field review in the fall and review comments
at the February 2008 meeting.
- Unit Leader
positions in each functional area. Proposal to have a base PTB with
common tasks for each functional area (Plans, Logistics, Finance)
with a section for each Unit Leader position (for example, Situation
UL, Time UL, Ground Support UL). IOS WT approved.
- FBAN/LTAN: Recommendation
to combine into one PTB. Only difference in the PTB’s is the software
used by the position and prerequisites for the position are different.
IOS WT approved.
- Codes: Discussion
as to whether codes are still needed or if PTB could be re-written
to state “wildfire,” “wildland fire” or “incident assignment” required.
Decided that codes are still needed and the IOS WT will recode prior
to and at September meeting.
- Bulleted items:
Often the interpretation is that each bulleted items in the PTB needs
to be signed off. The direction to the revision SME’s is that the
task has to be signed off and the bulleted items are tickler items.
Recommendation that the PTB administration clearly state this and
the PTB’s be more clearly formatted.
- HELM/HELB. (Brad
Gibbs, IHOps Committee). Proposal to have only one position, titled
Helicopter Manager (position code of HMGR) and if extra qualifications
are needed, they can be requested in special needs (ICT4, PLDO, Initial
Attack capable, etc). Recommended fitness level of moderate and RT-372
refresher. IOS WT approved, it will be changed in revised 310-1. Fitness
changes to position need to be run by the SHWT.
- DECK/TOLC/ABRO.
Recommendation to combine into one PTB with common tasks and separate
tasks for each position. Certificate sheets for each position will
be needed. Also, HECM was removed from DECK as a prerequisite when
it was removed from ABRO and needs to be added back to DECK. IOS WT
approved.
- HLCO/ATGS. Recommendation
to combine the PTB’s. IOS WT approved.
- Field Managers
Course Guide. Question arose if the FMCG is in line with the 310-1
or has different prerequisites.
FOLLOW
UP: Paul will contact SHWT regarding fitness change/new
Helicopter Manager Position. Mike Dudley and/or Andy Bellcourt will
contact Tim Sexton regarding Fire Use position discussions and set
up meeting with them, either one day in Boise or as part of a regular
meeting. Steve Jackson needs to attend meeting in September as part
of 310-1 revision process.
Position
Naming Board (PNB) Updates (Mazzier):
Information on how
to change a position code was distributed and is posted on the IQCS
website. The following are position code requests:
- MHML Military
Helicopter Manager Liaison. Denied by PNB and IOS WT.
- WCTA Work Capacity
Test Administrator. Denied by PNB and IOS WT.
- FWFM Fixed Wing
Flight Manager. Denied by PNB and IOS WT.
- HIOP Handheld
Infrared Operator. All PROB’s will be converted to HIOP. Approved
by PNB and IOS WT.
- Request to delete
ADOM (ADO Team Member), ADOC (Certifying Officer for Disbursement),
and IHCA (Assistant Hotshot Superintendent). Deletion approved by
PNB and IOS WT.
Technical
Specialists:
Discussion on Technical
Specialist positions and inclusion in 310-1. Criteria for 310-1 inclusion
and moratorium on new positions discussed. There seem to be many positions
waiting for the moratorium to be lifted so inclusion in 310-1 can be
requested. Some WT for Technical Specialist positions have been created
by NWCG. Until the Technical Specialist definition is established the
moratorium on new positions needs to stay in place. If a request for
a new position comes through another WT, the Training Development Group
in Boise feels they should oversee it. This needs to be discussed jointly
between the TWT and IOS WT.
Comparison of 310-1
and Technical Specialist positions:
| 310-1
Positions |
Technical
Specialist Positions |
| - "Prestige"
of being in 310-1 document |
- Cannot use
NWCG pretzel |
| - NWCG pretzel
on PTB's |
- Can have
PTB |
| - TWT oversight |
- Industry
Standards |
| - Position
Code |
- No minimum
qualification |
| - Mobilized
Nationally |
- Position
Code |
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- Can be mobilized
nationally |
Reasons for not
including all positions in 310-1 are:
- Training support
requirements
- Frequency of
use
- Limits the flexibility
of the positions and qualifications
- Oversight and
management
- Costs associated
with above items
Alternatives for
consideration:
- Technical
Specialist positions are accepted into the 310-1.
- Divide position
into separate oversight organizations.
- No action at
this time.
A decision needs
to be made prior to the next 310-1 revision and a definition of Technical
Specialist included in the document. Proposal for joint meeting for
screening process is:
Current 310-1 Inclusion
Criteria:
- Position is
needed for national mobilization
- Position is
interagency in scope.
- Position has
been reviewed and supported by the interagency community.
- Position supports
the NWCG mission.
- Qualifications
and position request is submitted by NWCG, another WT, or a GACC.
- No other position
exists to do the job.
Proposed additional
criteria:
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Primary position qualifications are not addressed or supported by
industry standards/requirements for training.
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Directly supports wildland fire incident management.
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Demand and frequency of use is evident and long standing.
If a position is
included in 310-1 it will require TWT oversight of training. There will
be no official management of Technical Specialists positions by the
TWT or IOS WT.
FOLLOW
UP: September joint agenda item.
310-1 Errors (Bellcourt):
The following items
need to be looked at during the 310-1 revision:
OSD Update
(Dougherty):
Will give update
at next meeting.
FOLLOW
UP: September agenda item.
Fire Use Modules (Broyles):
A federal fuels
group under NFAEB developed a Fire Use Handbook and determined typing
of 1 and 2 for Fire Use Modules. Typing is under the IOS WT for oversight
and while the NFAEB and NWCG have almost the same membership this was
never passed officially through NWCG or the IOS WT. NICC has a question
if the modules will be ordered as a group or individual resources. The
typing issue needs to go back through NWCG to clarify that the IOS WT
oversees typing of resources. Clarification is also needed on the ordering
protocol.
FOLLOW
UP: Bob will contact Karyn Wood, NWCG Liaison to the IOS
WT, to express IOS WT concerns.
FEWT Proposed Engine and Water Tender Tying Update (Shiplett):
The Western States
sent a letter to the FEWT to request they stop the engine typing process.
Tory Henderson, Chair of the FEWT, is aware of the IOS WT concerns and
will get back to us. San Dimas is researching the issue also. This issue
is on hold until we receive the matrix.
FOLLOW
UP: Brian will forward the Western States letter to the IOS
WT and will follow up with the FEWT Chair.
Forms Update (Dougherty):
ICS Forms were reviewed
and discussed. Due to cost and software considerations, unless there
is a significant reason to change the form, it will be left as is.
Glossary (Alworth):
Ralph distributed
unclaimed definitions to appropriate WT’s to review with a due date
of June 1st and has not received any responses. Recommendation for WT
with less than five unclaimed terms, IOS WT assigns them custodianship.
IOS WT approved.
Recommendation to
delete term “Most Efficient Level (MEL).” IOS WT approved deletion.
Reviewed definitions
of “Competency,” “Behavior,” “Task,” and “Learning Objective” which
were tasked to Deb Epps to develop. IOS WT approved definitions.
Definitions approved
in Albuquerque meeting have been forwarded to PMS and the TWT to validate
with a due date of June 1st.
Reviewed revised
definitions from the 310-1. All terms discussed need to be included
in the revised 310-1. Some minor edits made by the IOS WT.
Briefing Paper “Revisions to PMS 310-1”:
Briefing paper directed
to NWCG, but not sent out officially, making recommendations on how
to streamline the qualification process to increase staffing. The IOS
WT reviewed the recommendations and will take into consideration during
310-1 revision process.
Strategic Action Plan/Budget:
The IOS WT sent
a request to all WT’s to respond with their documented standards under
each WT’s purview. The IOS WT has been directed to consolidate the responses.
Responses have been received from the TWT, Fire Environment WT, FEWT
and the SHWT, but there was a variety in how the term “standard” was
interpreted. Discussion as to whether this has already been completed.
IOS WT Standards
are:
- ICS Standards
for Wildland Fire
- Operational
System Description
- Quals and
Certification Standards, 310-1, PTB’s
- Typing Standards
- Crews
- Team
- Equipment
- Aviation
- Fireline Operation
Standards, 410-1
- Supporting Technology,
IQCS
Budget is to be
based on Action Plan goals and standards. Proposed budget:
FY 2008 – 25,000
(15,000 for travel and 10,000 for 310-1 revision)
FY 2009 – 25,000 (15,000 for travel and 10,000 for 410-1 revision)
FY 2010 – 15,000
FOLLOW
UP: Vince will work on budget format and submit.
410-1 Prework:
The IOS WT, especially
state reps, need to survey the field as to how the Fireline Handbook
is being used. The revision goal is to make it usable to the field.
FOLLOW UP:
All IOS WT members to survey the field for input.
10 Year Plan Update:
Jim Karels surveyed
the field and a combination of the IRPG, Red Book and Fireline Handbook
is not needed. Still need to determine if the 230-2 and 230-3 are still
needed.
FOLLOW
UP: Vince will check on the 230-2 and 230-3 and let Beth
know. Beth will finalize the 10 year plan and send out to the IOS
WT
Areas of Responsibility:
Three have been
received: FIRESCOPE, NPS, and USFA.
FOLLOW UP:
Beth will re-send a reminder and the template.
Thank You Note:
Thank you note needs
to be done for Mary Lambert and Dave Herrera.
FOLLOW
UP: Beth will write note for Bob’s signature.
Action Log Review:
Distributed for
review and updates.
FOLLOW UP:
Beth will update and send out.
Agenda Items September Meeting in Portland, OR:
- Mission critical
310-1 positions. (joint with TWT)
- OSD Update
- FUWT positions
(RXI1/2, FIRB, FUM1/2)
Future Meeting Dates:
- Meeting with
FUWT. IOS WT Boise members to meet with FUWT. Jim Kelton to contact
to set up. Items to discuss:
- FUM1/2
- FIRB, RXI1/2
- Combining
Rx/Wildland Fire/Rx Fire competencies integration into other positions.
- Meeting with
SHWT. Paul to contact and set up. Items to discuss:
- Fitness
changes
- Helicopter
Manager position
- September 24-28,
2007. Portland, OR. (Begin at 0800 on Monday, end on Friday). BIA
to sponsor. Note: No charge to IOS WT for this meeting, BIA will
sponsor next meeting.
- Tentative, if
needed: November 13-15, 2007. San Diego, Scottsdale or Tucson.
Meeting Sponsorship Schedule:
February 2003, Carmel
CA – USFS
April 2003, Albuquerque NM – No charge
November 2003, Portland OR – USFWS
February 2004, St. Pete’s Beach FL – State of Florida
April 2004, Boise ID – BIA
October 2004, Tucson – No charge
November/December 2004, San Antonio TX – NPS
January 2005, Boise ID - BLM
March 2005, Boise ID – BLM
June 2005, Salt Lake City UT – USFS
Cancelled: September 2005, Boise ID – State of Idaho
November 2005, Denver CO – FWS
March 2006, Naples FL - State of Florida
May 2006, Boise, ID – BLM
October 2006, Gettysburg, PA – NPS
February 2007, Albuquerque, NM – USFS
April 2007, New Orleans, LA – No charge
September 2007, Portland, OR – No charge
Tentative: November 2007, Location TBD - BIA
Conference Calls:
Conference calls
are the second Wed. of each month at 1200 hours, Mountain Time. Dial
in number is 505-842-3895.
Dates:
May 9, 2007
June 13, 2007
July 11, 2007
August 8, 2007
September – No call, regular meeting
October 10, 2007
November 14, 2007
December 12, 2007
FOLLOW UP: Beth will send out reminders.
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