1 00:00:00,959 --> 00:00:12,280 so the hot bike racing this open left 2 00:00:09,250 --> 00:00:14,980 doors open reset after Kasia and she 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,890 pushes me okay copy that good line here 4 00:00:14,980 --> 00:00:20,230 we'll set up I we wanted to repeal if 5 00:00:17,890 --> 00:00:25,320 this kind of right down off the Year 11 6 00:00:20,230 --> 00:00:30,099 right down there vena feller well clear 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,500 ready drop broke hug huh drop the class 8 00:00:30,099 --> 00:00:32,250 joke 9 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:36,789 [Applause] 10 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:36,789 [Music] 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:50,830 the great tool and then repel capability 12 00:00:48,490 --> 00:00:54,100 has an initial attack it could be done 13 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:57,550 very timely and efficient and precise 14 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:59,290 manner like it's amazing how they want 15 00:00:57,550 --> 00:01:00,870 to put us right there we're going right 16 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:24,829 there 17 00:01:00,870 --> 00:01:24,829 [Music] 18 00:01:33,509 --> 00:01:39,429 in repeal world and as a pillar you 19 00:01:36,189 --> 00:01:41,350 occupy admit that no other operation has 20 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:43,539 you get delivered early you can be 21 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:47,700 inserted anywhere on that fire they need 22 00:01:43,539 --> 00:01:47,700 you to be in a very efficient manner 23 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:56,499 [Music] 24 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,499 [Applause] 25 00:02:14,890 --> 00:02:19,730 so we try to always go out with the four 26 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,220 firefighters and several days worth of 27 00:02:19,730 --> 00:02:24,140 food and water for them to be able to be 28 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:27,080 self-sufficient and and stay out there 29 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:28,670 and and hopefully take care of the fire 30 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,170 within a couple operational shifts 31 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:32,170 before they need a resupply 32 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:49,220 [Music] 33 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:51,450 I think we have such a broad range of 34 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:53,849 experience and a variety of things we've 35 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:55,140 done so we're not just into we're going 36 00:02:53,849 --> 00:02:56,280 to put you on this fire and you're gonna 37 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:57,239 dig this line around a fire and you're 38 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,569 going to call it out when you're done 39 00:02:57,239 --> 00:03:02,940 you know they expect us to be able to do 40 00:03:00,569 --> 00:03:04,830 a multitude of things and we'll do any 41 00:03:02,940 --> 00:03:07,560 kind of support word will be emergency 42 00:03:04,830 --> 00:03:09,090 operations you can be fire and just 43 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,739 basically anything we can get you what 44 00:03:09,090 --> 00:03:12,930 you need when you need it if you're on 45 00:03:10,739 --> 00:03:15,989 the fire as well and it's just about the 46 00:03:12,930 --> 00:03:18,090 efficiency of the crew itself not just 47 00:03:15,989 --> 00:03:21,120 the equipment you know not just an early 48 00:03:18,090 --> 00:03:23,069 inserted but just the experience and the 49 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,440 knowledge the crew has make some biggest 50 00:03:23,069 --> 00:03:30,209 difference the ability to deliver 51 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,349 personnel and cargo and remote locations 52 00:03:30,209 --> 00:03:34,170 in a timely fashion 53 00:03:31,349 --> 00:03:37,560 numb with precision accuracy is it's a 54 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:40,470 really great tool to have in the box and 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:44,459 so if I were to sum it up I would say 56 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:46,859 that yeah good people with with good 57 00:03:44,459 --> 00:03:50,850 equipment and good capabilities or what 58 00:03:46,859 --> 00:03:54,030 you get will often utilize the mission 59 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:58,019 profile to repel folks in to isolated 60 00:03:54,030 --> 00:04:01,109 portions of large fires usually hard to 61 00:03:58,019 --> 00:04:02,819 get to from ground resources may take 62 00:04:01,109 --> 00:04:05,600 quite a while to get there and require 63 00:04:02,819 --> 00:04:08,310 some logistical support it's often a 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,670 little bit easier and lower risk to 65 00:04:08,310 --> 00:04:13,410 insert four to eight repellers fully 66 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:15,329 self sustainable at that point with 67 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:16,919 their cargo to be able to button up a 68 00:04:15,329 --> 00:04:19,799 corner of a large fire otherwise 69 00:04:16,919 --> 00:04:24,360 critical piece and then be able to pack 70 00:04:19,799 --> 00:04:27,150 out on their own another role that we 71 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,850 sort of fall into is repellers is we 72 00:04:27,150 --> 00:04:33,210 can't quickly roll over to working at 73 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:35,250 helitack and if personnel are out on a 74 00:04:33,210 --> 00:04:37,500 fire and they need a health spot or they 75 00:04:35,250 --> 00:04:41,010 need to to get more people into a fire 76 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,960 they can call on us to either create a 77 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:45,090 swing flat if needed or a health spa 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,910 shinzo can come in there and construct 79 00:04:45,090 --> 00:04:51,180 that staff it and shuttle in more 80 00:04:47,910 --> 00:04:52,900 resources people and here or whatever is 81 00:04:51,180 --> 00:04:56,010 really needed 82 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:56,010 [Music] 83 00:04:59,659 --> 00:05:04,709 you know we've inserted people to help a 84 00:05:02,999 --> 00:05:06,689 couple years ago if somebody got hurt 85 00:05:04,709 --> 00:05:10,109 and they just needed people to help 86 00:05:06,689 --> 00:05:14,549 carry the individual out so we inserted 87 00:05:10,109 --> 00:05:17,039 four repellers in to the scene just to 88 00:05:14,549 --> 00:05:18,839 assist with the packaging of the patient 89 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:26,189 and getting the patient to the next 90 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:28,559 level of care you know you could insert 91 00:05:26,189 --> 00:05:30,749 repellers into a site to cut out a 92 00:05:28,559 --> 00:05:33,479 health spot so you could get life light 93 00:05:30,749 --> 00:05:36,569 you know close by it as well and you 94 00:05:33,479 --> 00:05:38,339 know you could at least insert up the 95 00:05:36,569 --> 00:05:39,929 ante using wilderness first responders 96 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:42,419 to help out it from the folks on the 97 00:05:39,929 --> 00:05:45,089 ground were qualified for that to you 98 00:05:42,419 --> 00:05:46,649 know help package them up and be ready 99 00:05:45,089 --> 00:05:49,909 to receive short hauls or something like 100 00:05:46,649 --> 00:05:51,899 that we have the potential to bring in 101 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:54,029 anything pretty much anything that we 102 00:05:51,899 --> 00:05:55,739 can longline this medicalized so that we 103 00:05:54,029 --> 00:05:56,869 could longline to use and sling up to 104 00:05:55,739 --> 00:05:58,860 you we can get that to you 105 00:05:56,869 --> 00:06:00,910 anything you need on the ground to 106 00:05:58,860 --> 00:06:05,879 stabilization bring out 107 00:06:00,910 --> 00:06:08,680 [Music] 108 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:11,169 the cargo letdown is an internal way we 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:15,430 can deliver cargo so for example if you 110 00:06:11,169 --> 00:06:18,009 ordered up some cubies or cubies 111 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:19,539 Gatorade some food we can package that 112 00:06:18,009 --> 00:06:22,259 in a way to where we can fly out 113 00:06:19,539 --> 00:06:24,669 internal with a spotter on board and 114 00:06:22,259 --> 00:06:27,729 come out and get on seeing your fire 115 00:06:24,669 --> 00:06:29,770 wherever you would like the cargo we can 116 00:06:27,729 --> 00:06:32,169 come the doors and kick the cargo out 117 00:06:29,770 --> 00:06:38,819 the door and control we let it down with 118 00:06:32,169 --> 00:06:40,749 our litte downlines cargo let down is 119 00:06:38,819 --> 00:06:42,550 quite a bit different than ordering 120 00:06:40,749 --> 00:06:46,449 swing load for starters you don't have 121 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:48,639 to have anybody on the ground to unhook 122 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:51,089 or receive there's no qualifications 123 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:54,249 than me doing this from the ground level 124 00:06:51,089 --> 00:06:56,259 when you order cargo let down versus the 125 00:06:54,249 --> 00:06:59,080 swing load you're going to get an 126 00:06:56,259 --> 00:07:01,360 aircraft that comes in with the doors 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,830 close no external attachments or 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,559 anything so it just looks like a normal 129 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:07,990 platform you're going to have a pilot 130 00:07:05,559 --> 00:07:10,539 and a spotter in the back so a lot of 131 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:12,219 safety factors have been mitigated in 132 00:07:10,539 --> 00:07:15,610 the sense that you're going to have eyes 133 00:07:12,219 --> 00:07:18,539 in the back the pilot is and again 134 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:23,199 you're not flying in with with that line 135 00:07:18,539 --> 00:07:25,149 attached externally with the sling load 136 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:28,240 it's just the pilot and a long line 137 00:07:25,149 --> 00:07:29,709 coming in to an existing swing sight 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,319 that has to be identified by the 139 00:07:29,709 --> 00:07:34,959 firefighter if you order cargo a letdown 140 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:38,559 you simply just need to order it and 141 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:40,899 that spotter and pilot will work out 142 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:42,399 where they deliver it you can have that 143 00:07:40,899 --> 00:07:44,499 communication on air-to-ground with the 144 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,509 aircraft talk about where you'd like it 145 00:07:44,499 --> 00:07:49,120 in a general sense and then leave the 146 00:07:46,509 --> 00:07:52,330 work of site selection to the guys in 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,520 the sky and and we'll figure out where 148 00:07:52,330 --> 00:07:56,229 to put it and will safely get it to the 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,789 ground and if it's not safe will tell 150 00:07:56,229 --> 00:07:59,789 you no and come up with another option 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:17,190 I can think of a number of fires you 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,020 know that felt good in the end but you 153 00:08:17,190 --> 00:08:21,840 know like here in Central Oregon we've 154 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:24,990 got the Cascade crest high public use 155 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:27,840 high recreation high visibility area so 156 00:08:24,990 --> 00:08:30,210 when indices are right you know we're 157 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,430 kind of the local area and management's 158 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:34,380 on edge so you know there's certain 159 00:08:32,430 --> 00:08:36,029 areas that if you get a fire it's going 160 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:37,680 to be all hands on deck and you know 161 00:08:36,029 --> 00:08:39,240 we've had a fire a few years ago that 162 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:42,210 took place up in the Cascade Lakes 163 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,950 Country and the bell goes off and you 164 00:08:42,210 --> 00:08:46,250 know it's just ops normal whether it's a 165 00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:49,620 small fire a big fire you take off 166 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:51,330 happens pretty quick and see the column 167 00:08:49,620 --> 00:08:54,089 right from the base and you know okay 168 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:56,760 well we got a fire here guys and a lot 169 00:08:54,089 --> 00:08:58,080 of other resources responded aerial and 170 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,550 on foot but you know it's in the 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,680 wilderness from where it's plotting and 172 00:08:59,550 --> 00:09:03,120 got a good west wind on it which is 173 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:07,230 exactly what you don't want to have and 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:09,779 this one little corridor yeah you could 175 00:09:07,230 --> 00:09:13,140 tell we had probably 10 to 15 acres on 176 00:09:09,779 --> 00:09:13,860 fire at that point in time we were able 177 00:09:13,140 --> 00:09:18,089 to get there 178 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:22,080 staff it and start bringing in retardant 179 00:09:18,089 --> 00:09:25,350 and go back and put the bucket on and 180 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,760 deliver water but we had an emerging 181 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:28,440 incident we you know we had something 182 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,630 that we were going to be on for for 183 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,540 several days and we needed more folks 184 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:35,850 more firefighters boots on the ground so 185 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:37,589 in addition to fighting the fire and 186 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:39,510 helping manage the aviation operations 187 00:09:37,589 --> 00:09:42,480 the guys were able to build a good hell 188 00:09:39,510 --> 00:09:44,790 of spot staff that and we were able to 189 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:48,120 shuttle crews in that evening and the 190 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:50,220 next day and then the guys rolled into 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,220 middle management positions on the fire 192 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:56,250 task force leader division soup sort of 193 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:59,400 stuff and were able to assist in that 194 00:09:56,250 --> 00:10:02,339 fashion and ultimately the fire was 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,850 caught at the type 3 level had a lot of 196 00:10:02,339 --> 00:10:08,040 potential to go type 2 but in the end 197 00:10:05,850 --> 00:10:10,880 yeah I think it was it was a great 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,500 example of what you know the rappel 199 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,250 operation has to offer you know a timely 200 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:16,440 response 201 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:20,370 remote delivery good firefighters 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,140 buckets support aviation managers that 203 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:24,060 know where and when to build a helispot 204 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:26,010 how to say if we facilitate that and 205 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:28,340 then we were able to get more boots on 206 00:10:26,010 --> 00:10:31,170 the ground and through a team effort 207 00:10:28,340 --> 00:10:34,710 repellers smokejumpers hotshots 208 00:10:31,170 --> 00:10:38,870 and crew members we were able to put 209 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:38,870 that fire out and ultimately do our job 210 00:10:40,190 --> 00:10:43,280 second operation repeal and it was 211 00:10:41,870 --> 00:10:44,990 actually the first stick out would have 212 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,880 been to recruit geeks for the year so 213 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:48,470 that's always kind of interesting and we 214 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,680 had two other repellers coming out who 215 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:54,350 are veterans but you know accompany cam 216 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:57,350 app on it and it was rocking pretty 217 00:10:54,350 --> 00:10:58,910 nasty gnarly terrain and had a lot of 218 00:10:57,350 --> 00:11:01,190 potential for rollout and becoming 219 00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:03,230 bigger the pilot tries to get us the 220 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:05,750 best ah he can on the fire what's going 221 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:07,460 on but as a repeller you pretty much put 222 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:09,200 all your trust in your spotter and your 223 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:10,610 pilot because the spotter is the one 224 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,290 that is giving you every direction 225 00:11:10,610 --> 00:11:13,970 that's the person you're looking for you 226 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:16,010 know looking too interesting to tell you 227 00:11:13,970 --> 00:11:17,870 yeah you can get out on the fire yeah 228 00:11:16,010 --> 00:11:20,240 here's we're going to put you and you 229 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:21,770 know safe it's going to be fine and so 230 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,240 we had to have that base particularly 231 00:11:21,770 --> 00:11:25,070 had to have a lot of trust in our pilot 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,720 and spotters because it was not the 233 00:11:25,070 --> 00:11:29,120 greatest several fell sides that was in 234 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,740 a lot of Jack's rolls dead and down so 235 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,460 very interesting just getting in there 236 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:36,200 and then we had had actually to 237 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:38,300 construct the health spot there to bring 238 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,190 in more resources because we you know we 239 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:41,090 only had two on the fire and this wasn't 240 00:11:40,190 --> 00:11:44,030 going to be enough for the rollout 241 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:45,890 potential between the terrain and it 242 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:47,720 being we were pretty new to it it was 243 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:49,400 quite the interesting fire but it came 244 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,740 off well brought in another crew to help 245 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,690 us out and then had to do a lot of book 246 00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:55,610 at work and had to do a lot of district 247 00:11:53,690 --> 00:11:58,170 rolling over the next few days to make 248 00:11:55,610 --> 00:12:02,860 sure it's going to stay there 249 00:11:58,170 --> 00:12:02,860 [Applause] 250 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:16,420 pretty simple killer Jose coffee a lot 251 00:12:13,510 --> 00:12:18,850 of work goes into the operation behind 252 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:23,680 the scenes if you're the end user 253 00:12:18,850 --> 00:12:26,920 be it a FMO or the ic5 that ordered a 254 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:28,690 load of repellers or the bucket you 255 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,970 don't see the work that goes in behind 256 00:12:28,690 --> 00:12:32,800 the scenes there's a significant amount 257 00:12:30,970 --> 00:12:34,870 of training that goes in from a pilot 258 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,950 perspective a lot of national 259 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:40,510 standardized procedures and policy the 260 00:12:38,950 --> 00:12:42,459 repellers themselves go through 261 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:44,980 extensive training on the repeal the 262 00:12:42,459 --> 00:12:46,570 technical side of rappelling and then 263 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:49,060 the mission is practiced and rehearsed 264 00:12:46,570 --> 00:12:51,670 and trained for and the worst-case 265 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:54,700 scenarios are planned for and whatnot 266 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:57,850 the Machine is scrutinized to the 267 00:12:54,700 --> 00:13:00,640 highest level as far as the mechanical 268 00:12:57,850 --> 00:13:04,209 operation of it so there's really an 269 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:06,910 obsession desire for perfection prior to 270 00:13:04,209 --> 00:13:09,610 the bell going off and what you get on 271 00:13:06,910 --> 00:13:11,380 the other end is is the culmination 272 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:12,910 about work and so I think there's 273 00:13:11,380 --> 00:13:14,529 problem there I'm sure there's a 274 00:13:12,910 --> 00:13:16,470 perception out there that it's a risky 275 00:13:14,529 --> 00:13:19,180 operation and yes it is riskier 276 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:22,480 rappelling out of a hovering helicopter 277 00:13:19,180 --> 00:13:25,120 inside of 250 feet but we have a really 278 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,800 really good an outstanding safety record 279 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,230 if you look at at the bodywork that 280 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,440 we've accomplished over the last what is 281 00:13:29,230 --> 00:13:35,350 it 40 years you know or more so just 282 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,240 know that there's good people in that 283 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:40,089 aircraft that are making decisions and 284 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,860 thinking hard about risk management and 285 00:13:40,089 --> 00:13:43,990 just because you order that machine 286 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:46,149 doesn't mean we're going to rappel right 287 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:48,279 you don't have to assume that risk is 288 00:13:46,149 --> 00:13:49,630 the person on the ground all you got to 289 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:54,100 do is say it's something that you would 290 00:13:49,630 --> 00:13:58,240 like to have a tool that you seek as the 291 00:13:54,100 --> 00:14:01,149 risk will get taken and the decision to 292 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,339 tackle that risk will get handled inside 293 00:14:01,149 --> 00:14:06,040 of that aircraft and and that lies on 294 00:14:03,339 --> 00:14:08,740 the spotter and the pilot and the 295 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,350 repellers on board to have that 296 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:12,730 conversation assess that risk and then 297 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:14,640 make a decision on whether they feel 298 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:20,080 it's safe to staff the incident or not 299 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:26,479 oh good sense of calm setting or pellets 300 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:26,479 [Applause] 301 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:40,779 [Music]